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diff --git a/vms/vms-notes b/vms/vms-notes deleted file mode 100644 index 2d57648e..00000000 --- a/vms/vms-notes +++ /dev/null @@ -1,1148 +0,0 @@ -Thu Nov 22 18:18:47 IST 2012 -============================ - -Per Anders Wallin, the HP VMS porting guide is available at - - http://h71000.www7.hp.com/portability/portingguidelines.html - -This file documents this fact, and anything else of interest. -From wb8tyw@qsl.net Wed Dec 11 20:03:44 2013 -Return-Path: <wb8tyw@qsl.net> -Received: from skeeve.com (skeeve.com [127.0.0.1]) - by skeeve.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-2ubuntu2.1) with ESMTP id rBBI3gNX002464 - for <arnold@localhost>; Wed, 11 Dec 2013 20:03:43 +0200 -X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on - frenzy.freefriends.org -X-Spam-Level: -X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM - autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 -X-Envelope-From: wb8tyw@qsl.net -X-Envelope-To: <arnold@skeeve.com> -Received: from frenzy.freefriends.org [66.54.153.139] - by skeeve.com with IMAP (fetchmail-6.3.21) - for <arnold@localhost> (single-drop); Wed, 11 Dec 2013 20:03:43 +0200 (IST) -Received: from Encompasserve.org (Eisner.encompasserve.org [67.53.90.116]) - by freefriends.org (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id rBB5jaW9020988 - for <arnold@skeeve.com>; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 22:45:40 -0700 -Received: from [192.168.0.101] - (173-19-202-206.client.mchsi.com [173.19.202.206]) - by Encompasserve.org (PMDF V6.6 #13031) - with ESMTPSA id <01P1SYL5LELG002FZE@Encompasserve.org> for arnold@skeeve.com; - Tue, 10 Dec 2013 23:45:35 -0600 (CST) -Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 23:45:36 -0600 -From: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.net> -Subject: Re: Some questions... -In-reply-to: <201312110426.rBB4QXXc003297@skeeve.com> -To: Aharon Robbins <arnold@skeeve.com> -Cc: wb8tyw@qsl.net -Message-id: <52A7FC00.2040905@qsl.net> -MIME-version: 1.0 -Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed -Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT -User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 - Thunderbird/17.0.3 -References: <529A9537.7090404@qsl.net> <201312110426.rBB4QXXc003297@skeeve.com> -Status: RO - -On 12/10/2013 10:26 PM, Aharon Robbins wrote: -> Hi. Some questions about your changes. -> -> 1. I notice that there is at least one instance of #if __VMS, where as -> it seems most code uses #if VMS. Is that on purpose? If not, which -> is correct? - -VMS is a macro historically pre-defined by C compilers on C before the -ANSI rules. - -Under strict ANSI rules, a standards compliant compiler is not allowed -to pre-define macros that are not prefixed by "__". - -Which means that you can not count on the VMS macro being defined unless -you do it yourself. - -So __VMS is the ANSI correct definition. But it would be a lot of work -to change all the code. - -The vms_config.h that is now generated has these lines in it to make -sure that VMS is defined. - -#ifdef __VMS /* ANSI compliant */ -#ifndef VMS /* PRE-ansi */ -#define VMS 1 -#endif -#endif - -This may be needed for other architectures. It only shows up as an -issue if you set a "strict" compliance flag on the compile command. - -> 2. For the include of the main wrapper. Gawk already has a routine -> os_arg_fixup which is intended to manipulate argc and argv as needed -> by an OS-specific routine before main() parses it. A quick look at -> the wrapper looks to me like it could be made to fit within that framework, -> which would keep #if and the include out of the mainline code. - -I can look at that. I can also look to see if I can move the logic from -vms_crtl_init.c into it in a way that would sidestep that it has no -copyright notice at all. The result would be code that is almost -identical to code that is in the official Perl distribution. - -GNV was started as a user project and when the VMS POSIX product was -dropped and they needed a Unix like environment, Digital took over the -GNV product, but did not really do much to keep it up to date. - -The routine in vms_crtl_init.c is actually called before main() is -called, so just linking a module with it in is all that it takes to -activate the change. Unfortunately I do not know how to get it to -magically fix up the argv array. - -> If that looks reasonable to you, can you make that change? You can send -> it as a diff against what you currently have already done. - -I will look at it tomorrow night. I also found another change needed -for vms_args.c to work properly under a bash shell. - -> I'm sorry about the hassle on the copyrights, but I really have to play -> this game by the FSF rules. I hope we can get it clarified soon -> so that I can include the files in the dist. - -I hope so. I have not seen a reply from Karl yet. He did say that -there are other options. - -This would clear the way for getting the similar code accepted into the -Bash and coreutils repositories. I have a report that the first bash -4.3 beta built on VMS and looked real good on the test run. - -I am currently working on adapting the packaging scripts from bash and -coreutils to gawk. Each product has had it unique features, so I have -not yet come up with a generic set of scripts. - -This is a preview what will be coming: - -backup_gawk_src.com - Builds a VMS equivalent to tar archive. By -placing the source in the PCSI kit, it covers the requirement of -providing source somewhere with the binary. - -build_gawk_pcsi_desc.com - Creates a VMS PCSI package manifest file. - -build_gawk_pcsi_text.com - text output by the VMS PCSI package installer. - -compare_gawk_source.com - I have the source checked out on an NFS -server. The backup program needs me to copy it to a VMS volume first. -This procedure makes sure that the two copies are the same and ready for -backup. - -gawk_alias_setup.com - Sets up gawk and awk links to gnv$gawk.exe. -Needed to repair when sins of the past partially break an install. - -gawk_verb.cld - for gawk to use gnv$gawk.exe as an image. Different -than gawk.cld. To properly add an image to the VMS command table, it -needs a prefix. I have "GNV$" registered as a prefix for this purpose. - -gnv_gawk_kit_name.com - Calculates the VMS PCSI package name, used for -both file names and file contents. - -gnv_gawk_startup.com - Run at VMS startup to make sure that the -environment is set up properly for gawk. - -pcsi_gawk_file_list.txt - Source file for build_gawk_pcsi_desc.com. - -remove_old_gawk.com - Needed to properly clean up sins of the past. -Only touches the the GNV provided gawk and awk programs. - -stage_gawk_install.com - Does a pre-install into a fake "root" directory -tree for the kitting procedure to pull files out of. - -Regards, --John - -From wb8tyw@qsl.net Thu Dec 12 12:21:57 2013 -Return-Path: <wb8tyw@qsl.net> -Received: from skeeve.com (skeeve.com [127.0.0.1]) - by skeeve.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-2ubuntu2.1) with ESMTP id rBCAIn2l004322 - for <arnold@localhost>; Thu, 12 Dec 2013 12:21:55 +0200 -X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on - frenzy.freefriends.org -X-Spam-Level: -X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM - autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 -X-Envelope-From: wb8tyw@qsl.net -X-Envelope-To: <arnold@skeeve.com> -Received: from frenzy.freefriends.org [66.54.153.139] - by skeeve.com with IMAP (fetchmail-6.3.21) - for <arnold@localhost> (single-drop); Thu, 12 Dec 2013 12:21:55 +0200 (IST) -Received: from Encompasserve.org (Eisner.encompasserve.org [67.53.90.116]) - by freefriends.org (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id rBC6FboY024650 - for <arnold@skeeve.com>; Wed, 11 Dec 2013 23:15:41 -0700 -Received: from [192.168.0.101] - (173-19-202-206.client.mchsi.com [173.19.202.206]) - by Encompasserve.org (PMDF V6.6 #13031) - with ESMTPSA id <01P1UDWPUU7M002J4J@Encompasserve.org> for arnold@skeeve.com; - Thu, 12 Dec 2013 00:15:35 -0600 (CST) -Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 00:15:38 -0600 -From: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.net> -Subject: Re: Some questions... -In-reply-to: <201312110755.rBB7tIrb026097@freefriends.org> -To: arnold@skeeve.com -Cc: wb8tyw@qsl.net -Message-id: <52A9548A.5060604@qsl.net> -MIME-version: 1.0 -Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_0V6xQMBg8dMk2LzZyR0ioQ)" -User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 - Thunderbird/17.0.3 -References: <529A9537.7090404@qsl.net> <201312110426.rBB4QXXc003297@skeeve.com> - <52A7FC00.2040905@qsl.net> <201312110755.rBB7tIrb026097@freefriends.org> -Status: RO -X-Status: A - -This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ---Boundary_(ID_0V6xQMBg8dMk2LzZyR0ioQ) -Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed -Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT - -I moved the vms_gawk_main_wrapper.c code into gawkmisc.vms so that file -is not needed anymore. - -I also discovered that we were not building with exact case public -symbols, so I fixed up the source to build with exact case symbols. -This will be more important when building dynamic plug-ins, and in the -future if and when the other related packages can be built with it. - -This caused small changes to most of the source files in VMS, as all the -system services routines were in the wrong case. - -I see that just about everything has been backed out of git until the -legal stuff is resolved. - -This is what I currently have for io.c changes based on a branch I just -made against master. - -And this is what the diff for the vms/gawkmisc.vms changes are, which -eliminates the change to main.c. - -Regards, --John - - - -On 12/11/2013 1:55 AM, arnold@skeeve.com wrote: -> Hi. -> -> Thahks for the answers. I will address some of this later; I'm at work now. -> -> I would like to emphasize that, from my perspective, the priorities are: -> -> 1. Code changes (os_arg_fixup, etc.). -> 2. Documentation revisions. -> 3. The other VMS-only goodies that you described. -> -> The documentation revisions are not optional; I have to have them. -> -> But, as I said, it's enough if you give me plain text. I can do the -> markup. If the markup is what's holding you back then don't bother, -> just send me text, with some kind of clear indication of the sectioning / -> subsectioning (if any), and I'll do the markup. -> -> Karl replied further to me; I don't know if it was on purpose or -> by accident that he didn't include you. 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22:11:05 -0600 -From: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.net> -Subject: Re: VMS patch for config.h generation, passing tests. -In-reply-to: <52A277C3.303@qsl.net> -To: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.net> -Cc: arnold@skeeve.com, r.pat.rankin@gmail.com, anders_s_wallin@yahoo.se -Message-id: <52A3F159.9000607@qsl.net> -MIME-version: 1.0 -Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed -Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT -User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 - Thunderbird/17.0.3 -References: <52A17089.9060701@qsl.net> - <201312060840.rB68eH2F029601@freefriends.org> <52A277C3.303@qsl.net> -Status: R -X-Status: A - -I have merged in your changes with my local copy, but not sure yet what -to do to get the git status happy. - -Unfortunately the VMS 8.3 Alpha manyfile test failed. Closing 2 files -in io.c was not good enough. I am trying again with closing 4 files. -Still failed. I am going to have to add some diagnostics to identify -the failure. - -And the beginfile1 test also is failing on VMS 8.3 Alpha. I will look -at that after I resolve the manyfile issue. - -I also did not notice that ofmta test failed on VMS 7.3 VAX. The -floating point number is rounding differently. I get the same result -with the replacement SNPRINTF or the VMS provided SNPRINTF. - -TOAD> diff ofmta.ok sys$disk:[]_ofmta.tmp -************ -File SRC_ROOT:[GAWK.TEST]OFMTA.OK;1 - 5 4.234 - 6 4.2345 hi -****** -File LCL_ROOT:[GAWK.TEST]_OFMTA.TMP;2 - 5 4.235 - 6 4.2345 hi -************ - -I tried that build again with #undef HAVE_VPRINTF, and it failed. - - From eval.c: - I1 8733 #ifndef HAVE_VPRINTF - I1 8734 #error "you lose: you need a system with vfprintf" - .1 -%CC-E-ERRORMESSAGE, (1) #error "you lose: you need a system with vfprintf" - -Note that the error message has the wrong routine name. - -I have looked over the manual, and will try to get some detailed changes -to it. - -Some preliminary things to help collect my thoughts. - -As the MMS program has a lot of issues with ODS-5, Some open source -programmers have switched to Madgoat Make, known as MMK from -https://github.com/endlesssoftware/mmk . MMK uses most unmodified MMS -description files and handles ODS-5 volumes better than MMS does. - -The optional POSIX subsystem is no longer supported on VMS. While I -used to know at what version this support stopped in my head, I have -forgotten, and so far have not found that with an online search. - -Most of the C runtime routines that formerly required the POSIX -subsystem are in the VMS C runtime, so there no separate POSIX builds -needed for newer versions of VMS. - -The behavior of the VMS C runtime is controlled by feature settings that -can be set by logical names before the program is run. - -These feature settings include the support of longer filenames with -almost any characters including UTF-8, on ODS-5 volumes and if routines -should behave in a more Unix like fashion. - -I will be adding vms_crtl_init.c to the next commit for vmsbuild.com and -descrip.mms. This vms_crtl_init.c detects when the program is running -under a bash or similar shell and sets the feature settings for better -UNIX compatibility, or sets them for better DCL compatibilities. -It makes sure that the extended filename support is enabled. -This way a single binary can be used for both the VMS environment and -the DCL environment. - -As a replacement, a GNV https://sourceforge.net/projects/gnv/ was -created. There is older version of gawk that is provided by that package. - -Recently a group of programmers have started trying to correct issues -with the GNV project and reorganize it as a collection of packages along -wth a VMSPORTS https://sourceforge.net/projects/vms-ports/ effort. - -The GNV environment provides a Bash shell and several other utilities -intended to simulate a Unix environment. - -The web page https://sourceforge.net/p/gnv/wiki/InstallingGNVPackages/ -documents what needs to be done before installing these newer packages -while GNV is in the transition phase. - -Currently only Bash 4.2.45 and Coreutils 8.21 have been packaged, both -are fixing critical issues in GNV. - -I plan to have a GAWK PCSI package that will be installed with the VMS -PRODUCT command. This package will install into the GNV directory -structure, which mimics a Linux directory tree, so I will need to -determine where to put the gawk.hlp file in it. - -Regards, --John - - - -On 12/6/2013 7:20 PM, John E. Malmberg wrote: -> Hello Arnold, -> -> I almost missed this, the gmail randomizer threw it in the spam folder. -> It tends to do that with about 1 to 5 percent of my incoming e-mail. -> -> I am still learning git, so I am not sure how to regenerate the patch -> set. If you can help me with the commands, I can try to regenerate it. -> -> I ended up doing two patches, because I forgot that VMS execute -> permission is interpreted differently than Unix, so is usually on. -> -> I did not change the commands to kick off the build procedure, just the -> internals. -> -> Unfortunately Texinfo is not in my toolbox. I will look at the *.tex* -> files to see what I can figure out for editing the source format for any -> changes. I did update the readme.vms FILE. -> -> Also this patch should enable the dynamic extension loading, which I -> forgot to put in the change list. -> -> To better support dynamic extensions, gawk on VMS/ALPHA should be built -> using IEEE floating point. -> -> This slightly changes the precision of floating point output. I am not -> sure that anyone would notice. IA64 defaults to IEEE, and VAX can not -> support IEEE. -> -> The reason for this is that most open source packages expect the IEEE -> behavior, so it seems best to default to that when possible. -> -> When we get this step resolved, I am going to work on the procedure to -> generate a installable package in the VMS PCSI format. -> -> Regards, -> -John -> -> -> -> On 12/6/2013 2:40 AM, arnold@skeeve.com wrote: ->> Hi. ->> ->> Thanks for this. I already pushed the change you suggested about ->> version.c. Do you want to pull and regenerate this patch set? ->> Or should I just apply it all and you'll send me an updated patch? ->> ->> Finally, we need the manual updated about the build procedure. If ->> Texinfo isn't in your toolbox, you can just send me plain text and I'll ->> handle the formatting, but the manual needs to be updated and also ->> and README files. ->> ->> This is great work and it's exciting that VMS gawk is progressing ->> this way. ->> ->> Thanks, ->> ->> Arnold ->> ->> "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.net> wrote: ->> ->>> Forgot to document that the previous strftime test was incorrect as it ->>> was not specifying a timezone on VMS versions that support timezones ->>> which made the behavior different than on Unix/Linux. The test has been ->>> fixed. ->>> ->>> All tests now passing on VAX/VMS 7.3, Alpha and IA64/VMS 8.4. ->>> Tests are still running on ALPHA/VMS 8.3, but I am expecting them to ->>> also pass. ->>> ->>> VMS build procedures no longer need to be edited when the version number ->>> changes. ->>> ->>> 2013-12-05 John E. Malmberg <wb8tyw@qsl.net> ->>> ->>> * New config_h.com to generate config.h ->>> ->>> * New gawk_ident.com generates ident line for link option file. ->>> ->>> * Add version_c.com to create version.c from version.in. ->>> ->>> * Remove fcntl.h covering up real fcntl.h. If an older version ->>> of VMS needs this file, the build procedure should be updated ->>> to generate it from a template. ->>> ->>> * descrip.mms: Use command files to generate files based ->>> on same input files as a Linux build. ->>> ->>> * gawkmisc.vms (files_are_same): support _USE_STD_STAT for VMS 8.x. ->>> ->>> * generate_config_vms_h_gawk.com: Generates a helper file ->>> config_vms.h to cover issues config_h.com can not handle. ->>> ->>> * vmsbuild.com: Use command files to generate files based ->>> on the same input files as a Linux build. ->>> ->>> * vms_misc.c (vms_open): VMS CRTL setting errno to ENOENT where ->>> it should be set to EMFILE. ->>> ->>> Regards, ->>> -John -> - -From wb8tyw@gmail.com Mon Dec 16 21:27:20 2013 -Return-Path: <wb8tyw@gmail.com> -Received: from skeeve.com (skeeve.com [127.0.0.1]) - by skeeve.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-2ubuntu2.1) with ESMTP id rBGJQJfQ002202 - for <arnold@localhost>; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 21:27:19 +0200 -X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on - frenzy.freefriends.org -X-Spam-Level: -X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, - DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham - version=3.3.1 -X-Envelope-From: wb8tyw@gmail.com -X-Envelope-To: <arnold@skeeve.com> -Received: from frenzy.freefriends.org [66.54.153.139] - by skeeve.com with IMAP (fetchmail-6.3.21) - for <arnold@localhost> (single-drop); Mon, 16 Dec 2013 21:27:19 +0200 (IST) -Received: from mail-ie0-f173.google.com (mail-ie0-f173.google.com [209.85.223.173]) - by freefriends.org (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id rBG6Tatb002732 - for <arnold@skeeve.com>; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 23:29:39 -0700 -Received: by mail-ie0-f173.google.com with SMTP id to1so5932042ieb.4 - for <arnold@skeeve.com>; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 22:29:36 -0800 (PST) -DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; - d=gmail.com; s=20120113; - h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject - :content-type; - bh=ksiNjtwxRvh74kzY1LKaRL/l+Ja2PriUxgPwwm+Igho=; - b=BiJLgaDXXU4R0IwBKeNvon0qca3q3Le4HtVArPhKruA9rRhSqfVcTRHrQ8fF1r0f5h - N28vQidBEX3PNHi9k0uzfHF1sqT7LHGxOfSS/7ipk8UWoa4BVB3taSOFAAMzTkQUeduC - 2RNaWLJHjFR4xRvkOwYqJPVikLyg2atmds6iLoxKOFbNCz+KUFQacDmaCLiibEg4pxV1 - DsZWlBKLFrl8wXF5+gy3ZAj3FafIZluCgY5rUqrfXxrV9a7kumGrgljPG84MAOT01eCe - nXnlrhJgxIAjndT7sYPSYGZkeieSagmN57kRqefNkHk9PhdF5RbY3J0PBC7r0cJn/MKE - Uh0A== -X-Received: by 10.50.154.102 with SMTP id vn6mr13663789igb.1.1387175375953; - Sun, 15 Dec 2013 22:29:35 -0800 (PST) -Received: from [192.168.0.101] (173-19-202-206.client.mchsi.com. [173.19.202.206]) - by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id da14sm14704681igc.1.2013.12.15.22.29.33 - for <multiple recipients> - (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); - Sun, 15 Dec 2013 22:29:34 -0800 (PST) -Message-ID: <52AE9DD7.1020409@gmail.com> -Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 00:29:43 -0600 -From: John Malmberg <wb8tyw@gmail.com> -User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 -MIME-Version: 1.0 -To: Aharon Robbins <arnold@skeeve.com> -CC: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.net> -Subject: Updates for gawktexi.in,readme.vms -Content-Type: multipart/mixed; - boundary="------------040502020402090508010905" -Status: RO -X-Status: A - -This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------040502020402090508010905 -Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed -Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit - -Hello Arnold, - -These are the preliminary updates for the VMS documentation. - -I forgot to document (not sure where to put it) - - * The exit code reporting in GAWK is wrong and violates VMS - standards. This is a common problem in older ports because - the exit() was not implemented correctly, and neither was - the rest of the C runtime. Day 1 porting bug that was inevitable. - - The first problem is that if I fix it to report the correct exit - status, it would break DCL procedures written to expect the - wrong value. - - The second problem is that the new exit() call does not - allow setting the severity values and the existing gawk code - is setting them for tests to use. - - Using reverse engineering, I have determined how to encode - the correct exit codes with severity into the old exit() - API. - - If the shell is a UNIX shell: - - * The input parameters and options are handled the same as Unix. - (I have forgotten if I sent you that patch yet) - - * The exit codes are correct. The DCL severity information - is also added even though most C programs will not use them. - -I do not know if would be permissible to change the behavior to always -use the correct exit code with the severity values set. - -Existing DCL code using the severity values would not notice this change. - -I would have to document how to convert UNIX exit codes to DCL values -for people to get the original codes back. - - - -In the documentation, I have been trying to change the case of the -filenames referenced in the VMS sections to be exact instead in upper case. - - -In general, on the older ODS-2 VMS file system, the files were stored -and displayed in upper case. - -In the newer ODS-5 file system, filenames are stored in a case preserved -state and are when unpacked from a repository are still in lower case. - -The VMS DCL shell also has an optional mode /PARSE=EXTEND mode where it -handles those names. - -In the normal mode DCL converts all unquoted parameters to upper case, -and then the C runtime converts all unquoted parameters to lower case. -A slight but significant difference. - -In the extended mode, DCL and the C runtime will also not do any -conversion of parameters. - -Which means that in extended mode, the target to the MMS or MMK program -needs to be in the exact case, or it may not be found. - -When you have an NFS mounted volume, like I do, things get a bit strange -on older VMS, like VAX/VMS, because it presents lower case filenames in -upper case, and uses the $ character to indicate when the case gets -inverted. - -Example: - -TOAD> dir src_root:[gawk.readme_d]readme.vms -%DIRECT-E-OPENIN, error opening SRC_ROOT:[GAWK.README_D]README.VMS;* as -input - -TOAD> dir src_root:[gawk.$readme_$d]$readme.vms - -Directory SRC_ROOT:[GAWK.$README_$D] - -$README.VMS;1 - -On current versions of VMS that support ODS-5, the exact case of the -files are seen. - -EAGLE> dir src_root:[gawk.readme_d]readme.vms - -Directory SRC_ROOT:[gawk.README_d] - -README.VMS;1 - -This affects build procedures as they must look for both path names. - -Regards, --John - ---------------040502020402090508010905 -Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; - name="gawktexti_in.gdiff" -Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -Content-Disposition: attachment; - filename="gawktexti_in.gdiff" - ---- /src_root/gawk/doc/gawktexi.in Fri Dec 13 17:43:41 2013 -+++ /vms_root/gawk/doc/gawktexi.in Sun Dec 15 23:28:13 2013 -@@ -32713,6 +32713,9 @@ - @item - Prestandard VAX C compiler for VAX/VMS - -+@item -+GCC for VAX and Alpha has not been tested for a while. -+ - @end itemize - - @end itemize -@@ -33993,41 +33996,96 @@ - @appendixsubsubsec Compiling @command{gawk} on VMS - @cindex compiling @command{gawk} for VMS - --To compile @command{gawk} under VMS, there is a @code{DCL} command procedure that --issues all the necessary @code{CC} and @code{LINK} commands. There is --also a @file{Makefile} for use with the @code{MMS} utility. From the source --directory, use either: -+To compile @command{gawk} under VMS, there is a @code{DCL} command procedure -+that issues all the necessary @code{CC} and @code{LINK} commands. There is -+also a @file{Makefile} for use with the @code{MMS} or @code{MMK} utility. -+From the source directory, use either: - - @example --$ @kbd{@@[.VMS]VMSBUILD.COM} -+$ @kbd{@@[.vms]vmsbuild.com} - @end example - - @noindent - or: - - @example --$ @kbd{MMS/DESCRIPTION=[.VMS]DESCRIP.MMS GAWK} -+$ @kbd{MMS/DESCRIPTION=[.vms]descrip.mms gawk} - @end example -+or: -+ -+@example -+$ @kbd{MMK/DESCRIPTION=[.vms]descrip.mms gawk} -+@end example -+ -+The @code{MMK} is an open source freeware near clone of @code{MMS} and -+can better handle @code{ODS-5} volumes with upper and lower case filenames. -+@code{MMK} is available from @url{https://github.com/endlesssoftware/mmk}. -+ -+With @CODE{ODS-5} volumes and extended parsing enabled, the case of the target -+parameter may need to be exact. - - Older versions of @command{gawk} could be built with VAX C or - GNU C on VAX/VMS, as well as with DEC C, but that is no longer - supported. DEC C (also briefly known as ``Compaq C'' and now known - as ``HP C,'' but referred to here as ``DEC C'') is required. Both --@code{VMSBUILD.COM} and @code{DESCRIP.MMS} contain some obsolete support -+@code{vmsbuild.com} and @code{descrip.mms} contain some obsolete support - for the older compilers but are set up to use DEC C by default. - --@command{gawk} has been tested under Alpha/VMS 7.3-1 using Compaq C V6.4, --and on Alpha/VMS 7.3, Alpha/VMS 7.3-2, and IA64/VMS 8.3.@footnote{The IA64 --architecture is also known as ``Itanium.''} -+@command{gawk} has been tested under VAX/VMS 7.3 and Alpha/VMS 7.3-1 -+using Compaq C V6.4, and Alpha/VMS 7.3, Alpha/VMS 7.3-2, and IA64/VMS 8.3. -+Most recent builds are were using HP C V7.3 on Alpha VMS 8.3 and both -+Alpha and IA64 VMS 8.4 using HP C 7.3. -+@footnote{The IA64 architecture is also known as ``Itanium.''} -+ -+Work is currently being done for a procedure to build @code{gawk} and create -+a PCSI kit for compatible with the GNV product. -+ -+@appendixsubsubsec Compiling @command{gawk} Dynamic Extensions on VMS -+ -+Dynamic extensions need to be compiled with the same compiler options for -+floating point, pointer size, and symbol name handling as @code{gawk}. -+Alpha and Itanium should use IEEE floating point. The pointer size is 32 bits, -+and the symbol name handling is to be exact case with CRC shortening for -+symbols longer than 32 bits. -+ -+Alpha and Itanium: -+ -+@example -+/name=(as_is,short) -+/float=ieee/ieee_mode=denorm_results -+@end example -+ -+VAX: -+ -+@example -+/name=(as_is,short) -+@end example -+ -+Compile time macros needed to be defined before the first VMS supplied -+header file is included. -+ -+@example -+#if (__CRTL_VER >= 70200000) && !defined (__VAX) -+#define _LARGEFILE 1 -+#endif -+ -+#ifndef __VAX -+#ifdef __CRTL_VER -+#if __CRTL_VER >= 80200000 -+#define _USE_STD_STAT 1 -+#endif -+#endif -+#endif -+@end example - - @node VMS Installation Details - @appendixsubsubsec Installing @command{gawk} on VMS - --To install @command{gawk}, all you need is a ``foreign'' command, which is --a @code{DCL} symbol whose value begins with a dollar sign. For example: -+To use @command{gawk}, all you need is a ``foreign'' command, which is a -+@code{DCL} symbol whose value begins with a dollar sign. For example: - - @example --$ @kbd{GAWK :== $disk1:[gnubin]GAWK} -+$ @kbd{GAWK :== $disk1:[gnubin]gawk} - @end example - - @noindent -@@ -34039,10 +34097,15 @@ - @file{sylogin.com} procedure, which allows all users - to run @command{gawk}. - -+If your @command{gawk} was installed by a PCSI kit into the -+@file{GNV$GNU:} directory tree, the program will be known as -+@file{GNV$GNU:[bin]gnv$gawk.exe} and the help file will be -+@file{GNV$GNU:[vms_help]gawk.hlp}. -+ - Optionally, the help entry can be loaded into a VMS help library: - - @example --$ @kbd{LIBRARY/HELP SYS$HELP:HELPLIB [.VMS]GAWK.HLP} -+$ @kbd{LIBRARY/HELP sys$help:helplib [.vms]gawk.hlp} - @end example - - @noindent -@@ -34106,6 +34169,19 @@ - of @env{AWKPATH} is a comma-separated list of directory specifications. - When defining it, the value should be quoted so that it retains a single - translation and not a multitranslation @code{RMS} searchlist. -+ -+@node VMS GNV -+ -+The VMS GNV package provides a build environment similar to POSIX with ports -+of a collection of open source tools. The @command{gawk} found in the GNV -+base kit is an older port. Currently the GNV project is being reorganized -+to be individual PCSI packages for each component. -+@url{https://sourceforge.net/p/gnv/wiki/InstallingGNVPackages/} -+ -+The normal build procedure @command{gawk} will produce a program that -+is suitable for use with GNV. At this time work is being done to create -+the procedures for building a PCSI kit to replace the older @code{gawk} -+port. - - @ignore - @c The VMS POSIX product, also known as POSIX for OpenVMS, is long defunct - ---------------040502020402090508010905 -Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; - name="readme_vms.gdiff" -Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -Content-Disposition: attachment; - filename="readme_vms.gdiff" - ---- /src_root/gawk/readme_d/README.VMS Fri Dec 13 17:43:41 2013 -+++ /vms_root/gawk/readme_d/README.VMS Sun Dec 15 22:57:42 2013 -@@ -37,6 +37,38 @@ - GAWK was originally ported for VMS V4.6 and up. It has not been tested - with a release that old for some time. - -+Compiling dynamic extensions on VMS: -+ -+Dynamic extensions need to be compiled with the same compiler options for -+floating point, pointer size, and symbol name handling as gawk. -+Alpha and Itanium should use IEEE floating point. The pointer size is 32 bits, -+and the symbol name handling is to be exact case with CRC shortening for -+symbols longer than 32 bits. -+ -+Alpha and Itanium: -+ -+/name=(as_is,short) -+/float=ieee/ieee_mode=denorm_results -+ -+VAX: -+ -+/name=(as_is,short) -+ -+Compile time macros needed to be defined before the first VMS supplied -+header file is included. -+ -+#if (__CRTL_VER >= 70200000) && !defined (__VAX) -+#define _LARGEFILE 1 -+#endif -+ -+#ifndef __VAX -+#ifdef __CRTL_VER -+#if __CRTL_VER >= 80200000 -+#define _USE_STD_STAT 1 -+#endif -+#endif -+#endif -+ - - Installing GAWK on VMS: - -@@ -47,6 +79,10 @@ - That symbol should be placed in the user's login.com or in the system- - wide sylogin.com procedure so that it will be defined every time the - user logs on. -+ -+If your gawk was installed by a PCSI kit into the GNV$GNU: directory tree, -+the program will be known as GNV$GNU:[bin]gnv$gawk.exe and the help file -+will be GNV$GNU:[vms_help]gawk.hlp. - - Optionally, the help entry can be loaded into a VMS help library. - |$ LIBRARY/HELP SYS$HELP:HELPLIB [.VMS]GAWK.HLP - ---------------040502020402090508010905-- - -From wb8tyw@qsl.net Wed Dec 11 20:03:44 2013 -Return-Path: <wb8tyw@qsl.net> -Received: from skeeve.com (skeeve.com [127.0.0.1]) - by skeeve.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-2ubuntu2.1) with ESMTP id rBBI3gNX002464 - for <arnold@localhost>; Wed, 11 Dec 2013 20:03:43 +0200 -X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on - frenzy.freefriends.org -X-Spam-Level: -X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM - autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 -X-Envelope-From: wb8tyw@qsl.net -X-Envelope-To: <arnold@skeeve.com> -Received: from frenzy.freefriends.org [66.54.153.139] - by skeeve.com with IMAP (fetchmail-6.3.21) - for <arnold@localhost> (single-drop); Wed, 11 Dec 2013 20:03:43 +0200 (IST) -Received: from Encompasserve.org (Eisner.encompasserve.org [67.53.90.116]) - by freefriends.org (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id rBB5jaW9020988 - for <arnold@skeeve.com>; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 22:45:40 -0700 -Received: from [192.168.0.101] - (173-19-202-206.client.mchsi.com [173.19.202.206]) - by Encompasserve.org (PMDF V6.6 #13031) - with ESMTPSA id <01P1SYL5LELG002FZE@Encompasserve.org> for arnold@skeeve.com; - Tue, 10 Dec 2013 23:45:35 -0600 (CST) -Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 23:45:36 -0600 -From: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.net> -Subject: Re: Some questions... -In-reply-to: <201312110426.rBB4QXXc003297@skeeve.com> -To: Aharon Robbins <arnold@skeeve.com> -Cc: wb8tyw@qsl.net -Message-id: <52A7FC00.2040905@qsl.net> -MIME-version: 1.0 -Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed -Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT -User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 - Thunderbird/17.0.3 -References: <529A9537.7090404@qsl.net> <201312110426.rBB4QXXc003297@skeeve.com> -Status: R - -On 12/10/2013 10:26 PM, Aharon Robbins wrote: -> Hi. Some questions about your changes. -> -> 1. I notice that there is at least one instance of #if __VMS, where as -> it seems most code uses #if VMS. Is that on purpose? If not, which -> is correct? - -VMS is a macro historically pre-defined by C compilers on C before the -ANSI rules. - -Under strict ANSI rules, a standards compliant compiler is not allowed -to pre-define macros that are not prefixed by "__". - -Which means that you can not count on the VMS macro being defined unless -you do it yourself. - -So __VMS is the ANSI correct definition. But it would be a lot of work -to change all the code. - -The vms_config.h that is now generated has these lines in it to make -sure that VMS is defined. - -#ifdef __VMS /* ANSI compliant */ -#ifndef VMS /* PRE-ansi */ -#define VMS 1 -#endif -#endif - -This may be needed for other architectures. It only shows up as an -issue if you set a "strict" compliance flag on the compile command. - -> 2. For the include of the main wrapper. Gawk already has a routine -> os_arg_fixup which is intended to manipulate argc and argv as needed -> by an OS-specific routine before main() parses it. A quick look at -> the wrapper looks to me like it could be made to fit within that framework, -> which would keep #if and the include out of the mainline code. - -I can look at that. I can also look to see if I can move the logic from -vms_crtl_init.c into it in a way that would sidestep that it has no -copyright notice at all. The result would be code that is almost -identical to code that is in the official Perl distribution. - -GNV was started as a user project and when the VMS POSIX product was -dropped and they needed a Unix like environment, Digital took over the -GNV product, but did not really do much to keep it up to date. - -The routine in vms_crtl_init.c is actually called before main() is -called, so just linking a module with it in is all that it takes to -activate the change. Unfortunately I do not know how to get it to -magically fix up the argv array. - -> If that looks reasonable to you, can you make that change? You can send -> it as a diff against what you currently have already done. - -I will look at it tomorrow night. I also found another change needed -for vms_args.c to work properly under a bash shell. - -> I'm sorry about the hassle on the copyrights, but I really have to play -> this game by the FSF rules. I hope we can get it clarified soon -> so that I can include the files in the dist. - -I hope so. I have not seen a reply from Karl yet. He did say that -there are other options. - -This would clear the way for getting the similar code accepted into the -Bash and coreutils repositories. I have a report that the first bash -4.3 beta built on VMS and looked real good on the test run. - -I am currently working on adapting the packaging scripts from bash and -coreutils to gawk. Each product has had it unique features, so I have -not yet come up with a generic set of scripts. - -This is a preview what will be coming: - -backup_gawk_src.com - Builds a VMS equivalent to tar archive. By -placing the source in the PCSI kit, it covers the requirement of -providing source somewhere with the binary. - -build_gawk_pcsi_desc.com - Creates a VMS PCSI package manifest file. - -build_gawk_pcsi_text.com - text output by the VMS PCSI package installer. - -compare_gawk_source.com - I have the source checked out on an NFS -server. The backup program needs me to copy it to a VMS volume first. -This procedure makes sure that the two copies are the same and ready for -backup. - -gawk_alias_setup.com - Sets up gawk and awk links to gnv$gawk.exe. -Needed to repair when sins of the past partially break an install. - -gawk_verb.cld - for gawk to use gnv$gawk.exe as an image. Different -than gawk.cld. To properly add an image to the VMS command table, it -needs a prefix. I have "GNV$" registered as a prefix for this purpose. - -gnv_gawk_kit_name.com - Calculates the VMS PCSI package name, used for -both file names and file contents. - -gnv_gawk_startup.com - Run at VMS startup to make sure that the -environment is set up properly for gawk. - -pcsi_gawk_file_list.txt - Source file for build_gawk_pcsi_desc.com. - -remove_old_gawk.com - Needed to properly clean up sins of the past. -Only touches the the GNV provided gawk and awk programs. - -stage_gawk_install.com - Does a pre-install into a fake "root" directory -tree for the kitting procedure to pull files out of. - -Regards, --John - |